Concerning the Second Coming, Answers For a Friend, and Maybe Some For You, Too

No one can write all there is to write on the Second Coming in one sitting, but hopefully, this is some food for thought.

For those who do not know, “Second Coming” refers to the return of the L-rd Jesus Christ.

While posting about the Second Coming, a friend of mine posted the following

This actually reminds me of something I’ve been genuinely curious about. Before the first coming, the Jews were expecting a conquering Messiah. They had every reason to expect one, given the tone and content of their scriptures. Instead they got Jesus and thus, perhaps understandably, did not recognize what he was.

Now, Christians all seem to be waiting for Jesus to come back and kick some serious butt. In other words, they are once again expecting a conquering Messiah and have every reason to expect one, given the tone and content of their scriptures. But why should it be any different this time around? The last people who wanted a conqueror got something completely unexpected, so what makes Christians so sure they are going to actually get a conqueror this time? Why the need for a conquering Christ at all, unless the Cross was not enough?

What follows is an attempt to answer some of these particular questions to the best of my G-d-given ability.  

On the first paragraph, I would respond in the following manner. The Jews did expect a conquering Messiah. Considering the issues they had with Egypt, Assyria, Persia, Greece, Rome, and most recently, Germany and the Middle East, it is understandable they would desire such a Messiah, and not just given the tone of their Scriptures, but also given the tone of their history. Theirs was a culture riddled with warfare and battle, destruction of idolatrous nations whose annihilation the L-rd explicitly commanded. Because of this history, the Hebrew language is one replete with battle and warfare terminology, unlike the more philosophically-oriented Greek language. The interesting thing is they were told by their prophets exactly where the Messiah would be born and the circumstances surrounding his birth. But by the way he acted the did not recognize him as the Messiah. They wanted one who would conquer Roman dominion, and He came to liberate them from an even deeper bondage, their own iniquities and bondages.

 

On the second paragraph, I would like to approach it in a little more inverse analysis.

First of all, the Cross was enough, if you have accepted and surrendered to the implications of its purpose.
The pre-redemptive implications are that (at the risk of sounding redundant):

1) All have sinned, period.
2) Jesus died on the cross.
3) Jesus died in order to liberate us from our sins, and then rose again from the dead in order to give us new life.
4) We can only be liberated from our sins and be thus transformed if we lay aside our pride, which prevents us from seing our sins and sinful state.

If we lay aside pride
and if we repent of our sins and sinfulness,
which means turn away from, leave, and forsake
and if we ask the L-rd to forgive us our sins,
then the redemptive implications of the Cross are applied to us

The Redemptive implications that follow are:

1) OUr sins are eradicated.
2) We are transformed. This is a loaded term, since many different things happen to us at once at this point. In fact, such a transformation takes place that we do not recognize the person we will become. The old person before Christ, and the new person after Christ are completely and totally indistiguishable, they are unique, singular, one-of-a-kinds.
3) A new creation comes into being.
4) We become aware of another voice within us that is different from all other voices. This is the voice of the Holy Spirit who indwells us.
5) We literally enter into a relationship with the L-rd, where He speaks to us and we are able to understand, and we speak with Him, and He readily listens to us and responds. It is a real relationship like that between brother and sister, or husband and wife, or between close friends, that involves back and forth communication and communion. However, this only can take place if we come ot the Cross He has provided and die to ourselves, or as the L-rd himself said, if we deny ourselves, take up our cross and follow him. It is a realization of our need for his ability to meet needs we never even realized we had all along.

A Christ-follower does what Christ did. He emptied himself and submitted himself to death, and served, and lived, and by his example taught us how to live.

Beyond our acceptance of the implications of the Cross, the Cross itself is enough, if you are merely talking about getting into heaven and eternal life. I however, want more than eternal life, and I imagine most of my readers want the same. I want to make an impact on this world.

But the Cross at this point is only a beginning, for as we relate to G-d, the relationship, itself a living thing, has the capacity and tendency to grow, mature, and bear fruit. Beyond mere redemption comes immersion into His Spirit (we call this Spirit Baptism) among other things. From this fruit flows the byproduct of ministry to others, which occurs in His strength. Through this fruit of relationship, we heal the sick, raise the dead, cast out devils, cleanse the lepers, speak in new tongues, etc. These are the things the L-rd would have us do as part of our relationship with Him, and He is such a good teacher as to show us how to do each of these things.

Now, the first part of that sentence “why the need for a conquering Christ at all, unless the Cross was not enough?

Romans 8:19-25 gives us a good portion of the answer. It reads:
“For the creation waits with eager longing for the revealing of the sons of G-d. For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of him who subjected it, in hope that the creation itself will be set free from its bondage to corruption and obtain the freedom of the glory of the children of G-d. For we know that the whole creation has been groaning together in the pains of childbirth until now. And not only the creation, but we ourselves, who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, grown inwardly as we wait eagerly for adoption as sons, the redemption of our bodies. For in this hope we were saved. Now, hope that is seen is not hope, for who hopes for what he sees? But if we hope for what we do not see, we wait for it with patience.”

The “whole creation” is everything that was from the creation of the world and is now is corrupted through the rebellion of humanity. That creation waits for the revealing of the sons of G-d, which is another term for the “heirs of the kingdom.” The creation waits with eager longing for the revealing of the kingdom becauses its own eventual redemption follows the completion of the redemption of all who will come to the cross. The cross brings the firstfruits of redemption out. The judgment brings that redemption of the rest of creation to its conclusion.

Next piece: “For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of him who subjected it.” That is because of humanity’s rebellion, the L-rd caused the rest of creation to join humanity. Mankind was intended to rule and care for a perfect world, but his rebellion created for him an imperfected state and that state of being colored everything else. Sin fed into the rest of the system around it, and was subjected to utter futility, or unavailing actions, by the L-rd himself in Genesis 3:14-19. Nothing in creation could avail for itself or anything else.

Next piece: “in hope that the creation itself will be set free from its bondage to corruption and obtain the freedom of the glory of the children of G-d.” The purpose of creation’s subjection to the same fate as humanity was HOPE. The hope was provided in Genesis 3:15-namely the Messiah who would eventually crush the head of the serpent. The Messiah was the hope of the entire creation. Not only was he to set free humanity (the “children of G-d”) by the cross, but he was also, in his judgment to set the earth free. I find it marvelous and awesome that He is able to liberate individual people in the midst of a crooked and perverse world. That was His first mission since His frist coming, liberation of people from their sinful bondages, instead of physical bondage to Roman Oppression.

The first crushing of the serpent’s head occurs when someone turns from their sin to Christ. When someone denies himself or herself, lays down their pride, pick up their cross, and follows Christ, the serpent’s head gets used for target practice int he life of that individual. Satan does not just get one loss, but he looses on a daily scale. G-d does not win once, but over and over and over and over, and this repeated victory is symbolized by His train which FILLS the temple in Isaiah 6. When rulers went to war in that culture, the winner’s king would take the ruler’s train and sew it to the end of his own. The L-rd’s victories are numberless and countless. Cocky and arrogant? We might think this, but the all-powerful G-d of the universe is not proud or arrogant, just capable.

The second and ultimate crushing of the serpent’s head and the ultimate fulfillment of Genesis 3:15 awaits the time and day when the whole earth and heavens will pass away and the new heavens and the new earth take their place, which is still on the L-rd’s task list. We will get to what is keeping the L-rd from doing this later.

Next piece: “For we know that the whole creation has been groaning together in the pains of childbirth until now.” Matthew 24 speak sof wars and rumors of wars, earthquakes, meterological anomalies etc. These are the groanings of the creation, and these things are increasing in rate and intensity.

Next piece: “And not only the creation, but we ourselves, who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, grown inwardly as we wait eagerly for adoption as sons, the redemption of our bodies.” Followers of Christ are the firstufruits of this redemption, and they also groan for the day when we will see our adoption takes place. They have a hope and a home that is not this strife-laden place.

So the earth waits for the revealing of the kingdom, for a liberation from bondage, and for an obtaining of the same freedom which believers already have.

The need for a conquering Christ is this. First of all, conquering and butt-kicking is not the point. Redemption is. His desire is full redemption. His nature as a just G-d demands redemption. Redemption of everything the canker worm and locust has eaten. The L-rd does not settle for peaceful coexistence with an entity whose chief and sole end is theft, murder and destruction, and who refuses to walk in deception and lies to obtain those ends. Permitting those to exist forever in the same plane as truth, light, honor, mercy, righteousness, and justice equals and absence of justice and the presence of perversion.

Ultimately, the L-rd who does not judge wickedness for any reason is a G-d of variance and weakness. That is a G-d who can be talked into making deals. Do we really want a G-d who is capable of bribery, usury, injustice, and the same perversions and wickedness as we are? No! Of course not. We want a G-d who is completely just, righteous, holy, and above all with deal with the wicked and the righteous accordingly.

But G-d does not use our standards for judgment. He uses his.

So, again, the question is begged. Why does G-d seem to stall in dispensing justice immediately on the wicked,and why does He seem to let evil go unabated?

It is the mercy and love of G-d that is prolonging the time that is left. If there is just one left who will come to the Cross and ditch his or her pride, then G-d permits the existence of the futility of the rest of this creation. For the sake of one person who will come the L-rd will postpone everything. That is His mercy and justice. And the L-rd in His omniscience knows when that is and who that is.

When He returns, redemption will again be the object. It should be different this time around because the heavens and the earth and the rest of creation are the object of that redemption. We have no idea what that redemption looks like, but my question to you, the reader, is do you want to be part of that redemption? It can happen for you right now. Now is the season, according to Romans 8, for each of us to answer whether or not the Cross is enough of a demonstration for us to know that He really does love us.

 

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2 responses to this post.

  1. Thanks for doing this, David. I really appreciate it.

    Of course, as usual for me I guess, is that any answer seems to raise as many questions as it answers. The main one that comes to mind is…once Satan is gone and there’s a new Heaven and a new Earth, what’s to prevent another Satan from rising up and starting the mess all over again? Lucifer was the most blessed of angels and he still found something to rebel against. Adam and Eve were perfect once and they blew it. Because they *could.* Even if one takes the hardest End Times stance and maintains that every single wicked person in the world will be destroyed, leaving only the “good people” to populate new Heaven and new Earth…what’s to prevent one of those good people from going bad? Sure, God can fix everything…but it seems to me that only possible way to ensure that sin cannot happen is to remove free will from the equation. A Heaven and Earth where people no longer sin and everyone is happy and free sounds nice…but impossible unless it was populated by automatons.

    The second coming seems to be very much about setting things right once and for all….but how *can* it be once and for all, if people retain their free will? So long as free will exists, it would seem that anyone in Heaven could choose Hell, as Lucifer did…but conversely, the hope is that anyone in Hell could at any time choose Heaven. I guess that’s how I see the Cross…not as a checkmate but as a gambit. You win by not winning, and that’s how you defeat evil while preserving free will. We didn’t defeat smallpox by eradicating the virus itself…and indeed if we did that another (probably worse) virus would just take its place. We just made it do that it cannot hurt people anymore. I could see God doing something similar with death and sin. I think Jesus *did* do that on the cross.

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  2. By the way, this does not cover the lion’s share (pun intended) of what I have to say about the SC. Just your questions.

    I will look at your questions and go section by section to see if I cannot answer what questions you do have to the best of my ability. You have some solid inquiries.

    “Of course, as usual for me I guess, is that any answer seems to raise as many questions as it answers. ”

    Boy, with an inifinite G-d I would imagine the questions to keep on coming, and if they didn’t, I would start to question.

    I know that my replies might seem overly-simplistic for you, but (as Khalil in “Jonah” said), “I am okay with that.”

    “The main one that comes to mind is…once Satan is gone and there’s a new Heaven and a new Earth, what’s to prevent another Satan from rising up and starting the mess all over again?
    Lucifer was the most blessed of angels and he still found something to rebel against. Adam and Eve were perfect once and they blew it. Because they *could.* Even if one takes the hardest End Times stance and maintains that every single wicked person in the world will be destroyed, leaving only the “good people” to populate new Heaven and new Earth…what’s to prevent one of those good people from going bad? Sure, God can fix everything…but it seems to me that only possible way to ensure that sin cannot happen is to remove free will from the equation. A Heaven and Earth where people no longer sin and everyone is happy and free sounds nice…but impossible unless it was populated by automatons.”

    Wow. Prevention of another fall. Well, I like to think of it this way, since this topic was not addressed in the Scripture, to my knowledge, except as provided in Revelation 21 and 22. Those are really the only definitive hint of what is there in that new heavens and new earth. I would imagine something fundamentally is transformed in us as a result of the recreation (no other way to put it that I can think of). Whether it is Ashley’s perception or Ashley’s understanding of reality, I do not hazard to think. I know that when I was born again, I literally felt and still continue to feel a shift of reality. How do I explain being born again to one who is not? You get part of my dilemma. A believer experiences a reality shift (see the language of John 3 between Yeshua and Nicodemus for this reality shift and Nicodemus’ issues with it) as a result of our redemption and acceptance of the L-rd Yeshua Ha-Mashiach and the one true G-d, and beyond this, a view of the Triunity of G-d (three and yet one and yet three and still one) is not too hard. He is G-d and he can do all things, that is why the concept of the Trinity is mind blowing to an nonbeliever and not the first thing in belief that we cover, usually. Constantine the heretic aside, and arguments about corruption of the text aside, it really is a beautiful picture, of a perfect Father relating to a perfect Son. Your and my stupid two-dimensional ideas about perferction aside. But I degress.

    I said all that to make this one point. All of our unregenerate thinking about perfection, and the life hereafter, and our ideals, and what is right and wrong, and justice, and fairness (which is not in Scripture, just read about hte parable of the workers in the vineyard: the master did not treat them fairly, and in His justice gave them each a denarius) are perverted by the fallenness of this world. Even though I am a new creation, I still externally fight the enemy’s voice on certain issues. I cry out daily for deliverance (“deliver us from evil”). Even though Romans 7 (the concept of a double nature) does not apply to me as a believer, even though I am in Romans 8 (and not under condemnation), I still cry out for deliverance.

    Therefore, our thoughts about what is going to happen or not happen are still going to be tainted and less than the absolute best G-d could absolutely have for those of us who lay down pride (which was the cause of the fall to begin with, the lust of the eyes, the lust of the flesh, and the pride of life).

    Think of the best life you possibly can for your son, and it still pails in comparison to heaven, and you are a mother. And the L-rd himself calls you and I evil (if you then, being evil…), and then compares that with the Father who is in heaven and says “if you then being evil know how to give your children good things then HOW MUCH MORE…

    HOW MUCH MORE is he willing to give to us who in this fallen world choose him. And how much more will he transform us, not into automatons, but those who walked through fire, hell, injustice, wars, tribulations, death, famine, sword, peril, slaughter and still chose him, and as a reward of that choice to overcome (read Revelation 2 and 3 for the rewards of those who overcome). And part of that reward is an eternal reuniting with those who chose a relationship with him over a relationship with things that were at enmity with Him. Those who really are brothers and sisters. I am excited at the mere thought of being able to reconnect with people from High School and College who I never got to know well, and to have that kind of deep abiding connection the Father intended for us to have. That kind of connection, which is not possible in a fallen world, will be made possible. We think of rewards in heaven and we think of a treasure box like pirate treasure. NO, No, No, No, No, no….it is more than that.

    “The second coming seems to be very much about setting things right once and for all….but how *can* it be once and for all, if people retain their free will? So long as free will exists, it would seem that anyone in Heaven could choose Hell, as Lucifer did…but conversely, the hope is that anyone in Hell could at any time choose Heaven. I guess that’s how I see the Cross…not as a checkmate but as a gambit. You win by not winning, and that’s how you defeat evil while preserving free will. We didn’t defeat smallpox by eradicating the virus itself…and indeed if we did that another (probably worse) virus would just take its place. We just made it do that it cannot hurt people anymore. I could see God doing something similar with death and sin. I think Jesus *did* do that on the cross.”

    Things are going to change SO RADICALLY from what they are now, that I cannot fathom what they will be like. How free will can coexist with perfection? Perhaps the secret to that is not the rewards and the other stuff we receive in heaven, but rather His all-surpassing beauty. Why you and I would choose less than Him, which hell is in part. The good being the worst enemy of the best. Why would you and I choose anything less when He has given us all things and will give us all things, including His Son.

    The cross is a gambit. The second coming is the checkmate. We are responsible as vested with his authority to continue with His leading the game, as it were. Believers have been given that, and I say we should take it. I say what is keeping us? What is keeping you?

    If we are reborn in such an awe-inspiring way now as we repent and choose to follow Him, HOW MUCH MORE will our tranformation be.

    “We will be changed in a moment.” (1 Corinthians 15:51). I cannot answer what that changing will be like, but we will be different than we are. If you are not born again, then being born again is like that. Something in you changes that you cannot explain. Seeing Him face to face as a redeemed son or daughter, another change takes place. And I won’t be able to explain that any further as of yet.

    Perhaps this answers your questions, perhaps not. But it is the best I can do.

    Thoughts?

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